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In response to the recent SurveyFail (see http://fanlore.org/wiki/SurveyFail for context )....

NOT SAFE FOR WORK

Pairing: Ogi/Sai :

Content/Warning(s): RPS, exhibitionism, cross dressing, tentacle porn, rape-fantasy

ETA:  if you find the depiction of rape fantasy triggery you probably want to avoid this image (I'm sorry that I did not realise my original warnings/wordings were not clear enough for some).

ETA 2: I was initially uncomfortable about posting this- about how people interpret it- because it is featuring subjects that I'm pretty sensitive about the portrayal of (for those who don't know me, I am in a nutshell: bisexual, a post-op transsexual, and I sometimes crossdress (not for kink)...). There is nothing wrong or shameful about homosexuality, with trans*ness, with gender bending etc..   This is something I normally wouldn't create (the RPS, the cross-dressing in this type of situation/pose, etc), yet in this one particular situation it seemed the best way to try expressing my thoughts/feelings I had to this situation.  I was initially pretty upset, like a lot of fen! once i knew what I was going to draw though that faded. The very last thing i worked on was the handwritten answer, and I felt sad when writing it, like I was writing the end of an unrequited love fic.

I replied a little more in comments, but at a certain point, the author is dead- I can't tell people what to think. People will and should have their own interpretations and feelings.  Speaking of which, some responses have been posted elsewhere, with some good discussion (and this makes me happy):

Pro: http://legionseagle.dreamwidth.org/9176.html :: http://darkrose.dreamwidth.org/23201.html :: http://cesare.dreamwidth.org/25294.html :: http://ithiliana.livejournal.com/1126645.html :: http://elf.dreamwidth.org/268699.html :: http://kanata.dreamwidth.org/85381.html :: http://anatsuno.dreamwidth.org/29416.html Con: http://sohotrightnow.dreamwidth.org/266984.html :: http://zvi.dreamwidth.org/549449.html :: http://seperis.livejournal.com/758636.html

ETA 3: For those that do not know, Dr Ogi has been a contestant on multiple game shops.  My fanart is manipulated, in part, from his appearance on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.  I would not have included exhibitionism as part of this work, if he did not have a history of television appearances, both game shows and talk shows (to promote his book etc).    I also wouldn't have made RP-art of him in the first place, if he wasn't already in the public eye.

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Dr Ogi hestitated before answering the survey question about which slashy fan-fic story he would most like to live out.

"That one where Sai was the show host and he turned into a tentacle monster..."


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Date: 2009-09-02 01:20 pm (UTC)
wrabbit: text oh blazes I've spilled my cocoa again (stock: phallic)
From: [personal profile] wrabbit
THIS IS SO AWESOME

i'm so happy right now

Date: 2009-09-02 01:24 pm (UTC)
wrabbit: text oh blazes I've spilled my cocoa again (Default)
From: [personal profile] wrabbit
I linked if that's okay ^^

Date: 2009-09-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
elf: Hentai lady (hentai)
From: [personal profile] elf
This is WONDERFUL and belongs in the Ogi/Sai archive that I'm sure will soon be having its first exchange fest!

(Um. Are you willing to have it [community profile] linkspam'd? Pleeeeeze? Even if it stays locked, I'd love to link to it.)

*face palms* This is so not the kind of stuff I usually do

Sometimes, circumstances inspire us to explore our abilities in new ways!

Date: 2009-09-02 08:47 pm (UTC)
anatsuno: the ninth doctor's profile (snap)
From: [personal profile] anatsuno
WINNNNNNNN. :D

Date: 2009-09-02 09:53 pm (UTC)
torachan: anime-style me ver. 2.0 (Default)
From: [personal profile] torachan
This is awesome! XD

Date: 2009-09-02 09:55 pm (UTC)
iulia_linnea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iulia_linnea
WIN!

Date: 2009-09-02 10:25 pm (UTC)
shiv: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shiv
Work of genius

Sparkletext for truth

Date: 2009-09-02 10:43 pm (UTC)
fridgepunk: a subtle reference to the impregnantion of Horse!Loki in norse mythology (Viking Mpreg)
From: [personal profile] fridgepunk
You are made of win!

Behold the internets I was bequethed yesterday

*displays internets*

All these internets are yours.
Use them together.
Use them in peace.

Re: Sparkletext for truth

Date: 2009-09-02 11:31 pm (UTC)
iulia_linnea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iulia_linnea
Speaking of win, I don't suppose that you're going to post your excellent Ogi/Sai RPS anywhere else now that the original post has been filtered? I quite enjoyed it. :)

Re: Sparkletext for truth

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Date: 2009-09-02 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nixwilliams
oh my GOD, this is BEAUTIFUL.

Date: 2009-09-02 11:12 pm (UTC)
themadlurker: (Default)
From: [personal profile] themadlurker
Oh my god, this is brilliant! You win at EVERYTHING!

Date: 2009-09-02 11:23 pm (UTC)
cimorene: (wild)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
Yeah, definitely funny. XD

Date: 2009-09-02 11:31 pm (UTC)
nicocoer: me, in black with hair cover (Default)
From: [personal profile] nicocoer
I. . . Well, I'm assuming you like your internet tentacled? because you just won an internetz.

Date: 2009-09-03 12:04 am (UTC)
cesare: Cute drawing of Teyla with wings (sga - teyla- flying! by chkc)
From: [personal profile] cesare
OMGENIUS

Date: 2009-09-03 12:17 am (UTC)
elf: Another link in the chain (Linkspam)
From: [personal profile] elf
This post, and the LJ one, have been included in a linkspam roundup.

Date: 2009-09-03 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ex_romaine323
*dies of laughter* Brilliant!!!

Date: 2009-09-03 02:14 am (UTC)
toft: Screenshot of the tomato roses created by Hannibal Lecter. (Default)
From: [personal profile] toft
Hahahahhaha, oh my GOD, that's genius.

Date: 2009-09-03 02:16 am (UTC)
thingswithwings: dear teevee: I want to crawl inside you (a dude crawls inside a tv) (john omg liek)
From: [personal profile] thingswithwings
THIS IS THE GREATEST PROTEST ART OF ALL TIME

Date: 2009-09-03 03:20 am (UTC)
isis: (squidfic)
From: [personal profile] isis
Bwahaha!

Date: 2009-09-03 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] heathen_outpost
Awesome!

Date: 2009-09-03 05:43 am (UTC)
iamtheenemy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iamtheenemy
Just my opinion, of course, and you don't know me, so you probably don't care, but I think that this is way, way over the line. So many people have been real class acts in this whole mess and have made me proud to be in fandom. It's a shame to see us stooping to personal insults in such a, frankly, violating way. (Really, we had to go tentacle rape, even as a joke? Really?)

Date: 2009-09-03 06:07 am (UTC)
lizbee: A picture of a Japanese toy in the shape of a fat, orange, happy cat (Default)
From: [personal profile] lizbee
No, agreed, we as a fandom would be up in arms if this was done to a woman, even a woman we strongly disagreed with. This isn't cool.

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Date: 2009-09-03 08:55 am (UTC)
piranha: stylized white figure lifting a red barbell with weights (Default)
From: [personal profile] piranha
i just came here from linkspam, and i don't find it offensive, but rather successful in, uh, skewering "dr" ogas in several ways.

i don't interpret it as rape. it's right there in writing that "ogi" wants to live out this fantasy of his, in which "sai" turns into a tentacle monster.

if this were an image of a woman in the same context i'd feel exactly the same about it; gender isn't what makes a difference here. the art doesn't leave it up to my imagination whether this is rape or rape fantasy, it spells it out clearly.

now, i generally disdain RPS with a passion, but this is protest art, and that redeems it in this specific context. i also appreciate the third layer that exists for me here because i dislike RPS -- ogi has violated people who took his survey, and RPS violates (IMO) the real people about which it is perpetrated. it seems at least artistic justice has been done.

it's a poignant image. it made me think about my immediate reaction (which was "ewww") and the laughter that followed. can't ask much more from art.

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Date: 2009-09-03 10:58 am (UTC)
eumelia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eumelia
Effing Win!!!!!

Date: 2009-09-03 02:28 pm (UTC)
cobweb_diamond: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cobweb_diamond
I am filled with vague horror but also great, great respect for you. man, those guys have SO gone up in flames. it's an internet conflagration of epic proportion.

Date: 2009-09-03 07:04 pm (UTC)
elf: Elf's Cousin It impression (Default)
From: [personal profile] elf
Not sure if this will work 'cos I'm posting from work.

This is an apology. There's an explanation attached, but it can wait until I have full access, if anyone cares to hear it.

I said some stupid things. (Details will wait.) Some was poor phrasing on my part, and some was just being argumentative. Just wanted to let you know I'm not going to continue arguing in your journal. (I sent you an email but I don't know if it went through; I don't know your address & access to the journalsphere from work is weird & difficult.)
I'm sorry I caused you grief or hassles. Sorry my thoughts on why/how-we-mock came across as condoning deliberate humiliation, and I'm aware why they came across that way--wanted to let you know that wasn't my meaning, and I'm sorry it came across that way (which is my fault), and also sorry I did so at a time when I can't do anything to fix it.

If anyone wants to discuss it with me (or just rant at me), my email is elfwreck at gmail dot com.

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Date: 2009-09-03 07:20 pm (UTC)
jonquil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jonquil
Please reconsider.

Flip this one. Dr. Ogas puts up the same image of ithiliana, or N. Pepperdell, or me. Still funny?

Date: 2009-09-03 09:57 pm (UTC)
dharma_slut: They call me Mister CottonTail (Default)
From: [personal profile] dharma_slut
Actually, we are pretty damn worried that he's planning to do that very thing. For a much, much larger potential audience.

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a request..

Date: 2009-09-03 10:39 pm (UTC)
dharma_slut: On a background of text from my story "Jessamine" the words Homemade Pornography (whatwedo)
From: [personal profile] dharma_slut
would you do this again, with a really sexy guy in the tentacles? Someone like... jack Sparrow, or Spike, or.. well just about anyone else.

I could SO get off on it!
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